Re: Tumulus Tombs AncientSites >Rome > Groups >Etruria New Vines "Products Contest" with $500 in Prizes! Places To Go!Today's PostsRomeAthensEgyptBabylonTaraMachuPicchuNewYorkAncientSitesSite MapAncientVine Rome Board Index | Rome Daily Posts Board: Etruria Topic: Origins of the Etruscans Topic Editor: Nesnut Hatshepsut Topic Description: The origin of the Etruscans... Email this post to a friend! Message: Re: Tumulus Tombs Author: Lauchum - Camitlnas Tullius, Patron Date: Jun 13, 2000 20:33 Just a brief (?) comment on Tumulus Tombs. According to the general sources I have read, Tumulus tombs were widespread. As well as being found in Etruria, they have been found in parts of Turkey, including the ancient Lydia which Heroditus refers to as the original home of the Etruscans. They are also common among the Scythians of Ukraine, another very prosperous race of people who traded extensively with the Mycenians. I have even seen some web pages which draw parallels between the Scythians and the Etruscans. My own leaning is towards the origins of the Etruscans in Lydia. The later (Classical)arguments that Lydia did not share the same language, and therefore could not have been connected with the origins of the Etruscans does not hold water, since there was considerable migration and influx of peoples from the East towards the end of the second millennium BCE (The fall of Troy for example is thought to have been around 1250 BCE) Linguistically I would argue that with current evidence we can't even say if the Etruscans brought their language with them from Lydia. Taking the analogy of the Normans, it was English which survived in England after the conquest and not Norman French. If we believe that only a few Lydians infiltrated Villanovan society and steered it towards civilisation, then is it not reasonable to believe that they would have adopted the language of the Villanovans ? The Lemnos inscriptions may be put forward as an argument that the Etruscan language spread from Lydia, but this has been dated at around 600BCE. Having examined this text, there are obvious similarities with the Alphabets, but the linguistic connections are less solid. Some of the graffiti found around the area is more obviously Etruscan. Nevertheless the question remains- Was Lemnos a staging post for the Etruscan on their way to Etruria, or was it a colony of Etruria, established after the establishment of Etruria itself. There is also the connection of the Pelasgians, or sea peoples. Where do they fit in with this? There is suggestions that they consisted of a mixture of peoples, analogous to the Barbary coast pirates. In summary I have presented a few (hopefully provocative) thoughts for discussion. I have no strong belief either way as to the origins of the language, but we need to question even the basic assumptions before we can make progress. Next: The Number 12 ( Lauchum - Camitlnas Tullius ) Previous: Re; The African Hypothesis ( Sceptic - Camitlnas Tullius )