Re: Origins of the Etruscans AncientSites >Rome > Groups >Etruria New Vines "Products Contest" with $500 in Prizes! Places To Go!Today's PostsRomeAthensEgyptBabylonTaraMachuPicchuNewYorkAncientSitesSite MapAncientVine Rome Board Index | Rome Daily Posts Board: Etruria Topic: Origins of the Etruscans Topic Editor: Nesnut Hatshepsut Topic Description: The origin of the Etruscans... Email this post to a friend! Message: Re: Origins of the Etruscans Author: Lauchum - Camitlnas Tullius, Patron Date: Jun 28, 2000 10:01 I feel very guilty at the moment for guiding Velthur to a web based translation engine without explaining its limitations. I find them very useful for giving rough translations that can be reworked into good English, but they can produce some rather colourful translations. Here is my translation of Velthur's post (if there is someone out there who speaks good Italian and English, please come forward): ============================================================================= Contribution for "The Origins of the Etruscans" - Velthur Valerius ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nowadays we know that the official "Etruscanologist" theory has been that of Pallottino, which sees in the Etruscan people, a technical and cultural evolution of the ancient Italic peoples. However, I wish to put forward a personal critical appraisal of the theory without attempting to provide an alternative rationale. In 540 BCE in the battle of the Sardinian sea, the Phocaean (Greek) fleet fought against against the Punic-Etruscan Alliance. At that time the technological level of the three navies is identical. The ships used are the "penteconter" longships (ships with a single layer of oars) In 414 BCE during the Athenian siege of Syracuse in Magna Graeca (Peloponnesian war), three Etruscan penteconters were despatched by the Etruscan Praetor Velthur Spurinna to fight side by side with Athens and its allies against Syracuse, albeit to no avail by the Etruscans. During a period of 130 years the Etruscans had made no progress in the technological arena, although by that time, the Greek and Punic fleets were equipped with Triremes (Ships with 3 rows of oars). Why was this? It was certainly not for lack of funds. Etruria in fact was still a free territory at that time, and did not yet have to face the costs of war with Rome. These are the known facts and now we come to our reasoning: The Etruscans left Asia Minor with all the their technological knowledge and settled in the central west of the Italian peninsula losing contact with the East and remaining outside the main influences of technological innovation. If we accept the theory of Pallottino it is still difficult to explain, since the Etruscans had advanced to the stage of having penteconters, while at the same time the other Italic peoples (The Latins, Romans, Ligurians, the Piceni, etc) did not even possess battleships. So what explains the halt in technological progress which ultimately risked loss of control of the Tyrrhenian sea? Was it lack of capacity or lack of will ? =============================================End of Translation Next: Some Interesting views (Re: Last posting) ( Lauchum - Camitlnas Tullius ) Previous: Contribute on Origins of the Etruscans. ( etruscan - Velthur Valerius )